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Saving The Baby From the Bathwater (#491)

FCCoffeeWhen you’ve discover that you’ve been misled by the abuse of theology and leadership, it is easy to discard anything that reminds you of your former bondage. In fact, it may be part of the journey to discard it all and let Jesus re-introduce it to your life when you can appreciate it as a gift, rather that frustrate with it as an obligation. One of our listeners adds some puzzle pieces to our conversation about theology and after teaching for a week in Lake Tahoe to a mission school, Wayne wanted to share a bit of his experience there and Chapter 18 from the audiobook of Finding Church to refocus on what Jesus meant by putting older brothers and sisters alongside us to be a blessing on this journey, not to burden us down.

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Get the Audiobook of Finding Church
Wayne’s Review of Church Refugees
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As a writer and teacher Wayne travels the world helping believers sort out what it means to live freely in the life of Christ. His latest books include He Loves Me: Learning to Live in the Father’s Affection and So You Don’t Want to Go to Church Anymore. He also collaborated on the writing of The Shack and helped create Windblown Media, the publishing company behind the phenomenon. He was a pastor for 20 years and a Contributing Editor to Leadership Journal and has authored numerous articles on spiritual formation, relational community and engagement of culture. His home website is Lifestream.org where you can find his blog, books, articles, and audio teachings. He resides in Newbury Park, California with his wife Sara and enjoys his adult children and three awesome grandchildren.

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The Pretense of Accountability (#490)

wayne2015Many who argue that attending a local congregation is essential to faith talk of the necessity of accountability, especially to religious leaders. Is the life Jesus calls his church based on accountability? Wayne takes up some listener email on this point to talk about how destructive the focus on sin and accountability is to the development of authentic relationships. Accountability leads to pretense not freedom as people posture for the acceptance of others. The life of the church is based on love, service and encouragement where people are free to be authentic, to ask the questions that are on their heart and to discover the transforming power of Jesus that actually frees us from sin by the work he does. Our concern for each other’s brokenness and our honesty with people caught in sin is best expressed in love, not by trying to hold others accountable.

Podcast Links:
Wayne’s Travel Schedule if you want to join me in Europe
Podcast from 6/24/10 With Brad and Wayne on Does Accountability Work?
Enjoy the Engage Videos
Our latest update from Kenya
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The Dones, Theology, and Parallel Play (#489)

emailHow can you share a task with other Christians, even for decades, and come out without any meaningful friendships that endure when the task is done? There’s actually a name for the phenomenon: parallel play, when you are doing the same thing in the same location but not really doing it together. The fruit of healthy adult activity is growing friendships of affection that are the true treasure of life. But before we get to that Wayne combs through the mail bag and blog comments to allow you to reflect back on our podcasts about the relationally challenged, “The Dones”, and finding a healthy conversation about theology. Watching people find their way into a transformational journey that negates the effects of religion and draws them into freer space of life and grace is the joy in doing this podcast.

Podcast Links:
Preachertainers and Pew Fodder
Previous podcast: Why Theology Matters
Our latest update from Kenya
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Holding To the Center (#488)

bobstampsFly the margins if you want, but it’s only the One who is at the center that will enduringly satisfy. Wayne continues his conversation with Dr. Robert Stamps who holds a PhD in Eucharistic Theology from the University of Nottingham and has been an United Methodist ministry for most of his life. More recently he has served as Dean of the Chapel and as a professor of systematic theology at Asbury Seminary. They continue to discuss Communion, the Incarnation, how we walk through painful circumstances, and how we can hold to the Center to keep our journeys on track. When their conversation ends Wayne processes his thoughts about teaching done well in the body and how our continued dialog about God not only enhance our own journeys but also help us explore the wonder of the body of Christ.

Podcast Links:
First part of Wayne and Bob’s Conversation
Previous podcasts with Bob Stamps: Living in God’s Mercy and God at Our Table
Our latest update from Kenya
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Theology As a Way of Living (#487)

beachwalkIs theology a static list of facts that seek to capture God in a box, or is it a wilder conversation about his wonder and mystery as we are learning to walk with him through our lives? Wayne and Sara are back from a brief time at the beach to celebrate their 40th wedding anniversary. With that backdrop and his recent visit with pastors in Southern California about the Dones, he continues last week’s theme of Why Theology Matters by responding to listener comments and emails. Many see theology as a dead set of concepts, rather than a living conversation that helps shape how we live in him and navigate the rigors of this age. Wayne reframes his appreciation of theology as the conversation with the church through the ages that helps us not just know things about him, but to know him and to follow him more accurately.

Podcast Links:
Previous podcast: Why Theology Matters
Our latest update from Kenya
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Why Theology Matters (#486)

bobstampsOne of Wayne’s closest friends and a gifted theologian joins us once again on the podcast to discuss the importance of an accurate theology, even for those who are living outside the box of religious obligation. Dr. Bob Stamps holds a PhD in Eucharistic Theology from the University of Nottingham and has been an United Methodist ministry for most of his life. More recently he has served as Dean of the Chapel and as a professor of systematic theology at Asbury Seminary. Even though Wayne and Bob share very different views of the church, they sat down in Richmond, VA a few weeks ago to discuss the theology that undergirds the life of the church however she connects. He views it as a conversation God is having through the Bible and with his people throughout centuries to help us understand who he his and his unfolding purpose in the world. A healthy theology will sustain a growing engagement with Jesus, not supplant it with lifeless creeds or rituals.

Podcast Links:
Previous podcasts with Bob Stamps: Living in God’s Mercy and God at Our Table
Our latest update from Kenya
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What to Do About the Dones (#485)

churchrefugeesNow that research has identified a group of passionate Christians who are no longer participating in traditional congregations, what does that mean for the future of the church? Will existing congregations find innovative ways to address the concerns of those who consider leaving? Will the church take on new expressions? Or both? Wayne continues his conversation with Dr. Josh Packard, Professor of Sociology at the University of Northern Colorado and the author of a new book, Church Refugees, which will be released on June 1. His book and the conversation it spawns can provide us an opportunity to recognize the church in all the ways she takes shape, or just divide us into separate tribes each thinking ourselves superior to others. Let’s pray it’s the former.

Podcast Links:
Part I of Wayne’s Conversation with Josh
Josh Packard’s Website
Pre-order Josh’s book Church RefugeesDownload the first chapter of Church Refugees
Holy Soup Blog on The Rise of the DonesThe De-churching Project
Webinar About Josh’s Book
Our latest update from Kenya
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Who Are the Dones? (#484)

jpackardSome are calling it the rise of the dones, the number of people who have given up on the traditional congregation and are finding community and mission beyond it in more relational ways. Meet the man behind the research. In a recent trip to Colorado Wayne sat down with Dr. Josh Packard, a professor of sociology at the University of Northern Colorado and the author of Church Refugees will be released on June 1. In research about church behavior, he stumbled across a broad group of people who didn’t leave the traditional congregation to abandon their faith but to live more freely in Jesus through being more proactive about building community and finding mission in the world. This is Part One of their conversation covering how they discovered what they are calling “The Dones” and that they are generally high-capacity Christ-followers who found the congregational model too stifling.

Podcast Links:
Josh Packard’s Website
Pre-order Josh’s book Church RefugeesDownload the first chapter of Church Refugees
Holy Soup Blog on The Rise of the DonesThe De-churching Project
Webinar About Josh’s Book
Our previous podcast about Josh’s work: Nones, Dones And a Wider Conversation
Our latest update from Kenya
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Learning to Live Relationally Free (#483)

relationalchallengeOne of our listeners said it best: “Religion makes you relationally challenged.” That it does, making us far more preoccupied with getting people to do what we want so we can feel safe and comfortable. Untangling all of that and learning to live more focused on others than ourselves is an amazing work God does to help us experience the treasure of real relationships that are honest, gentle and loving. Wayne takes a look at the kind of language and activity that actually subverts the relationships we desire so that we can better see how God is shaping us so that we can love others where they are and yet not be victims of their fears or insecurities. Living relationally free is the fruit of God working in us so that we have less need to manipulate others for our own desire, or to be manipulated by them for theirs.

Podcast Links:
Five Churchy Phrases That Are Scaring Off Millenials (Warning: This is one of those websites I avoid for its intrusive marketing of itself.)
Our latest update from Kenya
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Nudged Into More Open Space (#482)

lesstraveledHow does God draw us into the space where he works most freely and where we can more easily recognize his fingerprints in our lives? While many look for a voice or miraculous encounters, he mostly guides us by nudging our hearts either as an inclination to do something, or a restlessness not to. Sometimes he plants questions in our heart to help us recognize more freely how is work is unfolding in us instead of being lost in the anxiety of how we want him to work. Two of our listeners share how the Spirit is working in them to bring them into a more spacious place of life and freedom. Learning to recognize how the Spirit nudges you is one of the greatest discoveries of this journey. We don’t always get it right, but when we do, it is such a joy to watch how circumstances and his direction converge to spill out with his glory.

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