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~The Spiral of Silence~ (1-6-2012)
« on: January 06, 2012, 11:45:42 AM »



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~The Spiral of Silence~


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1 Timothy 2: 3 for this [is] right and acceptable before God our Savior, 4 who does will all men to be saved, and to come to the full knowledge of the truth;
(Modern Young's Literal Translation © 2005)

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Re: ~The Spiral of Silence~ (1-6-2012)
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2012, 12:57:40 PM »

Brothers,

“My love for you doesn’t depend
on you agreeing with me.”
Wayne Jacobsen
podcast quote
1-6-2012

Nomad Dave
"Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly.
Leave the rest to God."
By Floyd Watson
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1 Timothy 2: 3 for this [is] right and acceptable before God our Savior, 4 who does will all men to be saved, and to come to the full knowledge of the truth;
(Modern Young's Literal Translation © 2005)

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Re: ~The Spiral of Silence~ (1-6-2012)
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2012, 06:42:07 AM »

This Podcast was very interesting to me. The following is what I posted on the comments section of the website. Ready for more people to discuss. If only that the strength to speak up in the face of the majority is critical to a better world. I think we need as much discussion about it as possible.

This podcast reminded me of another social theorist I have studied rather closely, Rene Girard. His theory is based on imitation, that people imitate each other far more then we realise. We imitate each others actions, social behaviour but most importantly each other’s desire. Marketing uses this extensively. Products, material goods or anything really increases in value when mediated by a third model. So in this experiment the example of the “authoritative” wine taster provided an interpretation of the awful wine. The people then imitate him, and actually negate their own physical reaction. Yes this is just the spiral of silence, i.e. not wanting to speak up and rock the boat but also the ability to imitate also plays a very important role.

This is why Jesus is SO IMPORTANT He provides a model of behaviour, that by following him we can relax into Father’s love. In this way we don’t become dependent on the countless human crutches that draw us away from Jesus. Instead by letting him lead, we view money, sex, power (politics), material stuff etc all through his eyes. We are not then dependent on things but on Him and in Him lies freedom from tyrannical desire that is provided by countless models (mediated) around the world.

I’ve wanted to share this readings for sometime but did not want to bore everyone with it. This podcast seemed to provide the opportunity.

Unconditional love only comes from experiencing it in Jesus. Only then is it possible to not hold one’s family above Jesus but truly take root in Jesus and speak truth. Hopefully to strangers but but perhaps most importantly to our loved ones who it is most difficult to do so with.
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Re: ~The Spiral of Silence~ (1-6-2012)
« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2012, 05:16:55 PM »

This is why Jesus is SO IMPORTANT He provides a model of behaviour,
that by following him we can relax into Father’s love. In this way
we don’t become dependent on the countless human crutches
that draw us away from Jesus. . .Unconditional love
only comes from experiencing it in Jesus.


Hi Leon, welcome and thank you for posting comments
here on the forum. They are much appreciated
and I hope you will have time for more too.
Have you read "The Jesus Style" book?
Below is a link for more information:

http://www.servant.org/books.htm

Nomad Dave
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Leave the rest to God."
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Re: ~The Spiral of Silence~ (1-6-2012)
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2012, 08:39:34 AM »

Thanks for the kind words. Its great that people do actually continue the conversation. To be honest I've listened to so much I'm tired. What I actually want is to do - continue the conversation

Lets keep the conversation going!
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Re: ~The Spiral of Silence~ (1-6-2012)
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2012, 02:35:10 PM »

Leon,

continuing  on is
a great idea. :)

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(Modern Young's Literal Translation © 2005)

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Re: ~The Spiral of Silence~ (1-6-2012)
« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2012, 07:00:23 PM »

One of the measurable personality traits defined by psychology is that of divergent thinking.  The way this is tested is that someone is given a common object, such as a pencil, and asked how many uses they can think of in a set time frame.  Then there answers are scored against collected data both for number of responses and how many are different from commonly given responses.  Sometimes this personality trait is defined as the ability to think outside the box.

Now, twin studies seem to show that about half of who we are; our personality, talents, intelligence, ect.; is learned and half is genetic.  So, sometimes I just have to wonder, is it part of how we are created that some people are just more likely to conform and go along while others just don't feel that need as much? 

I know, for me, when I was going to the institution I often felt like maybe there was something wrong with me because there where some things I couldn't stop questioning, could not force myself to conform to.  But, I don't want to get into a place with this that I worry that I may not be allowing myself to be conformed to God. 
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