Since the last episode Wayne ended up having open-heart surgery far sooner than he expected and Brad debriefs that whole experience with Wayne as well as how he is doing in his post-operative recovery. In this highly personal conversation they talk about God's purpose unfolding in our circumstances and how to flow along with him rather than trying to manipulate circumstances in ways that serve us best. Also, on the same day they recorded The Shack movie trailer was released so Wayne debriefed some of the movies process with Brad and how he feels about the final product. No, this does not signal a return to regular podcasting again as Wayne is still in recovery. It was just a chance for two friends to get together and talk about some key events in their lives and share it with those who are interested.